can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post I agree, a lever gun in the .357 Max would be quite the setup. . The Alaskan combines tradition wit NO Credit Card Fees Like the Other Guys!! After the hunts are over is the best time to send barrels in for customizing! This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. bullets that allow for velocities Ruger never intended. Its blue with a 16.5 inch barrel. It is my go-to gun for self-defense at home and in my car. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For complete guns, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Ive been at the range many times when people in adjacent lanes started talking about trigger quality and, when I let them fire that old 19, the response is usually just, wow. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. Max. Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. At pressures in the 40,000-psi range, they helped avoid primer flowback that can tie up a break-action firearm. .30-30 is just a little unpleasant in it due to the light weight and stock. The hole in the barrel and tube could not be repaired but were near the ends, so he shortened and crowned the barrel, put in a new mag tube spring. Last one he had and probably will get for some time. Also have a stainless Rossi in .45 Colt. Admittingly I was single then but it was relaxing! SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Item Number: 534259137. . @ Ed Palumbo. $2.92. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. What would be the right bullet? The One-cartridge Hobby: .357 Magnum :: Guns.com .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. 1,254 max in one manual . We discuss most anything here politely. Supply and demand. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post I think my Henry BB 45 Colt is my fav. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. Rechamber to .357 Maximum or rethroat .357 Magnum factory chamber: Send the TC, CVA, ORHenry BARREL ONLY, and $125 check or money order, total including UPS shipping. My current 357 carbine is a Marlin 94 from 1998. You have entered an incorrect email address! It can be used against medium to large game, with hunters disagreeing over its efficacy for dangerous game such as bear. Not a bad option if you are living in a slave state. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. 357 Magnum Ammo for Sale Up to 24% Off - OpticsPlanet Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. The large loop makes solid sense for colder climates like the plains states and Alaska. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. While initially offered in .44-40, .32-20 and .38-40 (and discontinued for some time) a new version emerged in 2013 chambered for .357 Magnum/.38 Spl and a hammer block safety for safe carry. The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post Put the .357 Maximum Where It Works - Shooting Times 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? They show up now and again and they are a really fine rifle. NEVER JAM BULLETS INTO THE RIFLINGS! Industry specs call out a 158-grain bullet at a velocity of 1,800 fps and a 180-grain bullet at 1,530 fps, both from a 10.5-inch vented test barrel. The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Guns can be fun. Go for a hike in the woods or mountains and you see deer most times of the year. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA Show Only Guns 357 Maximum Rifle, 225gr SBT | Long Range Hunting Forum The most Fun guns I own. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. WOW! Shop online for discount .357 Remington Max ammunition from top ammo brands like Remington, Federal, Winchester, Hornady, CCI, Speer, and many more. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. The Big Boy Steel Carbine is competing for the top of my wish list I really like the color case hardened version. 350 Legend vs .357 Magnum, which is more powerful? - Gun Tradition Most of all it shoots the same ammo as a number of revolvers I have and reload for. Great deal on a 357 magnum! 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. COLUMN: Time to chamber more rifles in .357 Maximum Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. The.357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Paper patch an almost pure lead 380 to 400 gr bullet and it will do a number on an critter waaaaay out there even propelled with black powder but you have to know where your rifle shoots at what yardage. Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. So without further adiou "Welcome". Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. Please contact us with any questions, or for purchase options. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. Risking twice that? Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Offshore They're here!!! Even if production revolvers missed the test barrel velocities by 200 fps, they produced enough muzzle velocity to achieve good terminal performance from softpoints giving better penetration. Every bullet tested shot very well, and we did not have any key-holing whatsoever on any of the projectiles. .357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. Item Number: 534196137. The winchester representative claimed 2300 fps with a 150gr bullet out of a 20 inch barrel. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". [6] The "Magnum era" began with the .375 H&H rifle cartridge, spreading to handguns with the .357 Magnum. Remington is the only manufacturer of brass for this caliber, but Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, and several other manufacturers make bullets that work well for the cartridge. 44 Mag is much more forgiving. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. The .450 is like a 45-70 magnum. And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. I now have the Ruger gp100-7. Meet The 5 Best .357 and .38 Caliber Guns On Planet Earth You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. . Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. We are not currently living in such times, when even steel-cased Russian 9mm is sold off the shelves at ridiculous markups. I have become a fan. The New Henry Big Boy X models are looking like may be the best value in a New Lever action rifle. They averaged 1810fps out of my Marlin. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. Before the Remington, Freedom group takeover. In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. but I can welcome You to the forum. As most revolver . Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. by Hobie Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:55 pm, Post Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. I had owned two previously and traded them off as they were great with jacketed bullets but not lead (microgroove). I shoot 38 short. Factory .357 Maximum ammo is no longer sold by the big manufacturers, but the folks at Starline offer new brass cases for reloaders. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. Not going to get activated by accident, and potentially useful now and then. Here is a link to an article that may answer some questions. Save your brass and reload. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. Don't like it you can turn it quick and easy. Indeed. rounds much more than the .22s. And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. It was almost daylight and I kept hearing something move around. It can really thump that shoulder. (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. Show Only Non-Guns. or, H&R BARREL ONLY and $150 check or money order. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Just picked up a Marlin 1894C at my local gun store. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:32 pm, Post . I can (for now) legally own an AR, and do. The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. Kahlil, was the Marlin 94 you just got back from the Repair shop made between 2007 and 2012-2015? It was introduced in 1935, and its use has since become widespread. Show Only with Pictures No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. Or if you are willing to pay $1500-1,750 you get a Mikoru Japan made Winchester 92 Takedown rifle. I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. rifle is 17.1gr. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. Carbine length First off, a .357 lever is almost as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. Its replete with a brass receiver, 20-inch octagonal barrel and buckhorn rear sight, so it has the classic look and feel, but also features a brass bead front sight and 10-round magazine tube. Most were returned to the factory and their purchase price refunded. Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. XTP bullet in a 357 mag. It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. SAAMI documents dated 2005 list it as inactive.. .357 Maximum stalking rifle - Cast Bullet Forum 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. Load data for 9 loads in caliber .357 Maximum with .355 . Thus sighted, 125 grain +p 38 special is spot on out to about 50 yards, maybe furtherbut havent tried it. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. Custom craftsmanship applied to streamlined CNC manufacturing processes. Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. I know both of these are on the cheap side but the fun my kids and I have when we bring this to the range is priceless. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. Turned out to be a skunk right underneath my stand. plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. bullets in barrels around 20. The .357 Magnum cartridge is based upon Smith & Wesson's earlier .38 Special cartridge. As a reloader, I will say that I have affection for the ease of use/reuse of straight walled cartridges and, thus, am a bit more fond of 10mm but, .357 sig certainly has merit. Thank God for so many various powders available. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. Im glad I was able to get what I needed for the time being. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. And a fun one! by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:43 pm, Post 357 maximum rifle For Sale 1000+ Listings Found Page 1 of 317 1 2 3 . Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. Every time TTAG runs a lever gun article I want one. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. Was a great gun.I wish someone should resurrect it. It shoots pretty good. I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. We will take a look back at a stock revolver and its misunderstood cartridge called the .357 Maximum.Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. Above: Image courtesy of Steinel Ammunition. using H4227 and H110. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Blame it on the Covid 19 pandemic. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. Own Stock. Caint answer Ur ? These comments are directed at the people say there is no ammo to buy, or its too expensive. It worked well in T/C barrels with bullets over 158 grains, and as near-max loads are usually compressed, it eliminated propellant position issues. The .357 Rem. Upon opening the box the gun was dirty and needed to be cleaned/oiled, not sure if the dust was from the shipping cardboard or lack of care in the shop before packing. 30.30 vs. 357mag for deer hunting | Survivalist Forum Really puts a pop in the round. .357 Maximum - CHUCKHAWKS.COM Trust me. No such thing as a perfect caliber, but .357 magnum and its sister the .357sig is about as close as one can get. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. 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